{"id":9291,"date":"2025-04-25T13:02:03","date_gmt":"2025-04-25T17:02:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stjuliasilercity.org\/?p=9291"},"modified":"2025-04-25T13:05:37","modified_gmt":"2025-04-25T17:05:37","slug":"pope-latin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/stjuliasilercity.org\/en\/pope-latin\/","title":{"rendered":"Pope Francis and Latin Mass \/ El Papa Francisco y la Misa en lat\u00edn"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\">Thank you, Pope Francis<br \/>\nGracias, Papa Francisco.<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Every pope brings his own charism,<\/strong> spirituality, experiences, and perspectives to the papacy, together with his limitations.\u00a0 Humans are human and there is no escape.\u00a0 It\u2019s a great adventure to discern and witness how God guides the Church. \u00a0\u00a0I always found it interesting that a man like Francis could have come out of a college of cardinals and conclave so conservative.\u00a0 Once in a while life teaches us that the old saying is certainly true: \u201cWe propose, and God disposes.\u201d\u00a0 And God certainly proved it when Jorge Bergoglio was elected pope:\u00a0 A pope that brought fresh air into the lungs of the church without changing one iota of articles of faith, and who suffered the might of the traditionalists who fought him at every step of the way with ceaseless criticism and judgement.\u00a0 Yet, Pope Francis stood firm in his leadership and vision for the Church.\u00a0 Whether you or I liked him or not, agreed with him or not, approved of him or not, well, in the long run it really doesn\u2019t matter much.\u00a0 Life has a way of putting everything in its place.\u00a0 Somewhere along the path of history it will all make sense, and the pieces will come together.<\/p>\n<p>And just like that, life keeps going and it waits for no one.\u00a0 Life teaches us well.\u00a0 Now the College of Cardinals will elect a new pope.\u00a0 The triumphs and failures of this papacy will be recounted and entered into history just like all the others.\u00a0 Somehow, as life teaches us too, there is a reason for everything.\u00a0 Nothing happens in a vacuum and everything is interrelated.<\/p>\n<p>A new man will enter the life of the Church as the Vicar of Christ and head of the Roman Catholic Church.\u00a0 Some will like him, and others won\u2019t.\u00a0 He will tackle small and big issues and rain down praise and fire on himself.\u00a0 Some people will be elated, and others will lament the new leadership.\u00a0 It will all play out as time unfolds and history continues to judge, direct and be made.\u00a0 Popes come and popes go.\u00a0 Such is life.\u00a0 Just like us.\u00a0 For this very reason we pray that the cardinals may desire and welcome the illumination of the Holy Spirit so as to recognize the one on whom the Spirit rests.\u00a0 Let us pray that God\u2019s desires be recognized. We go forward with hope.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cada papa aporta su propio carisma,<\/strong> espiritualidad, experiencias y perspectivas al papado, junto con sus limitaciones. Los seres humanos son humanos y no hay escapatoria. Es una gran aventura discernir y presenciar c\u00f3mo Dios gu\u00eda a la Iglesia. Siempre me pareci\u00f3 interesante que un hombre como Francisco pudiera haber surgido de un colegio cardenalicio y un c\u00f3nclave tan conservador. De vez en cuando, la vida nos ense\u00f1a que el viejo dicho es cierto: &#8220;Nosotros proponemos y Dios dispone&#8221;. Y Dios ciertamente lo demostr\u00f3 cuando Jorge Bergoglio fue elegido papa: un papa que infundi\u00f3 aire fresco a la Iglesia sin cambiar ni un \u00e1pice de los art\u00edculos de fe, y que sufri\u00f3 el azote de los tradicionalistas que lo combatieron a cada paso con incesantes cr\u00edticas y juicios. Sin embargo, el Papa Francisco se mantuvo firme en su liderazgo y visi\u00f3n para la Iglesia. Que a ustedes o a m\u00ed nos gustara o no, que estuvi\u00e9ramos de acuerdo con \u00e9l o no, que lo aprob\u00e1ramos o no, bueno, a la larga, en realidad no importa mucho. La vida tiene una forma de poner todo en su lugar. En alg\u00fan punto de la historia, todo cobrar\u00e1 sentido y las piezas encajar\u00e1n.<\/p>\n<p>Y as\u00ed, la vida contin\u00faa y no espera a nadie. La vida nos ense\u00f1a bien. Ahora, el Colegio Cardenalicio elegir\u00e1 un nuevo papa. Los triunfos y fracasos de este papado ser\u00e1n narrados y pasar\u00e1n a la historia como todos los dem\u00e1s. De alguna manera, como tambi\u00e9n nos ense\u00f1a la vida, todo tiene una raz\u00f3n. Nada ocurre en el vac\u00edo y todo est\u00e1 interrelacionado.<\/p>\n<p>Un nuevo hombre entrar\u00e1 en la vida de la Iglesia como Vicario de Cristo y cabeza de la Iglesia Cat\u00f3lica Romana. A algunos les gustar\u00e1 y a otros no. Abordar\u00e1 problemas peque\u00f1os y grandes y se llenar\u00e1 de elogios y fuego. Algunos estar\u00e1n euf\u00f3ricos, y otros lamentar\u00e1n el nuevo liderazgo. Todo se desarrollar\u00e1 con el paso del tiempo y la historia siga juzgando, dirigiendo y creando. Papas van y vienen. As\u00ed es la vida. Igual que nosotros. Por esta misma raz\u00f3n, oramos para que los cardenales deseen y acojan la iluminaci\u00f3n del Esp\u00edritu Santo para reconocer a aquel sobre quien descansa. Oremos para que se reconozcan los deseos de Dios. Avanzamos con esperanza.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\">The Latin Mass and a Few Other Things In Between.\u00a0 Buckle Up!!<br \/>\nLa Misa en lat\u00edn y algunas otras cosas. \u00a1Abr\u00f3chense los cinturones!<\/h4>\n<p><strong>Thank God<\/strong> that we at St. Julia don\u2019t have a major discussion on this matter going on.\u00a0 Our unity and peace are respected.<\/p>\n<p>There have been times when I have been asked what I think of the Latin Mass or if I would be open to celebrate the old Latin Mass.\u00a0 I find it very interesting that even some young people now a days are attracted to the Latin Mass.\u00a0 I don\u2019t quite understand it all, but I have no choice but to accept what is happening and do my best to discern the movements of God.<\/p>\n<p>I may be a bit \u201cdifferent\u201d when it comes to all this because I really don\u2019t have anything against the Latin Mass.\u00a0 The reality is that within the Catholic Church the Eucharist is celebrated in many different ways.\u00a0 But would I celebrate a Latin Mass?\u00a0 The question sends shivers up my spine because I have a very limited understanding of Latin and asking me to celebrate Mass in Latin with the old rituals is like asking me to celebrate Mass in a Martian landscape.\u00a0 It was the Mass I served as a very young altar boy, and it was only for about a year or so.\u00a0 I\u2019m a child of Vatican II.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m one of those unique creatures that sees beauty and reverence everywhere.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t matter much to me in what direction the altar faces or the priest faces.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t matter in what language the Mass is celebrated and what rituals are performed.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t matter how the priest dresses (although putting on a lace Alb and wearing one of those \u201cfiddle-back\u201d chasubles is not something I dream of \ud83d\ude0a) or how many inches from his chest the priest opens his arms during the celebration.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t matter if you like the Latin Mass or not.\u00a0 That\u2019s your choice and if it brings you closer to God, well then, more power to you.\u00a0 What does matter to me is what brings you closer to God and to humanity.\u00a0 What matters to me is the positive difference that the celebrations and rituals help you in becoming a more devout and compassionate human being and bring you to union with God and with others, especially the poor, the marginalized, and the unlucky. \u00a0What matters to me is that your choices don\u2019t create spiritual arrogance within you and lead you to think that what you like is the best and only way.\u00a0 When arrogance sets in, everything that is good flies out the window.<\/p>\n<p>Now, don\u2019t get me wrong, please.\u00a0 In case you didn\u2019t know it, I love tradition, and I love ritual.\u00a0 There is much beauty and meaning in tradition and ritual.\u00a0 I think that tradition helps to keep us rooted and helps us maintain our identity.\u00a0 Ritual helps us to elevate all our senses to the act of worship and awareness of the sacred.\u00a0 They both certainly have their place in the life of the Church and the Church has always had deep respect for tradition and ritual.\u00a0 Tell you the truth, the rituals I tend to gravitate to are the ones that align my consciousness with the sacred, that show reverence and that root me in a sacred space during prayer and worship.\u00a0 I\u2019m a total contemplative when it comes to this.<\/p>\n<p>Well, here\u2019s what I think on the matter of tradition and ritual and a new pope (Drum Roll, please!!!):\u00a0 After attempting to read the signs of the times, I think that the powers that be will further discern to see where and if we threw out the baby with the bathwater.\u00a0 The younger generation is seeking out an experience of God and there is a shift in the human quest for God and spirituality. \u00a0Although I continue to discern all this with great interest, I really don\u2019t know what is going to come out of it.\u00a0 I believe that we are at a threshold and God will guide us through the threshold.\u00a0 I think that the cardinals might elect a man who is not rigid or too laxed on tradition and ritual, but who will try to create a balance between the Benedict and the Francis effects.\u00a0 His ways will affect the Church.\u00a0 So, hang on, people!\u00a0 This should be an interesting ride.\u00a0 I love the adventures God sends us and the surprises he stores for us whenever we get too sure of ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly, during the pontificate of Pope Francis, the question of the Latin Mass became a bone of contention.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it was the actual Latin Mass that was the problem, but something bigger became the problem: when the desire for the Latin Mass was usurped by an extreme traditionalist movement within the Church that became spiritually arrogant, divisive, disobedient, and down-right threatening to our Catholic unity.\u00a0 I think that they shot themselves in the foot.\u00a0 That\u2019s my take, anyway, and my take is not Catholic dogma, thank God!<\/p>\n<p>I hope that the whole deal with the Latin Mass comes to a happy ending, if it hasn\u2019t already.\u00a0 I certainly am not going to lose sleep over it.\u00a0 There are other important matters to attend to and to be devoted to:\u00a0 becoming more compassionate, taking care of our planet and our lives, attending to the poor and forgotten, becoming a more transparent and inclusive church, becoming more aware and educated about the message of Jesus Christ, putting our faith into action, becoming more humble and open to the Spirit, standing up for justice, becoming aware of the needs of others, becoming more understanding and forgiving, speaking truth to power, protecting the immigrant, seeking God\u2019s desires and will, creating a more peaceful world, and the list goes on and on and on and on\u2026\u2026\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>The consolation and the dismay about all this churchy stuff is that the planet will still spin on its axis, the sun will come out tomorrow, and there is still enough oxygen in the atmosphere for a little while longer.\u00a0 No need to press any panic buttons here.\u00a0 \u00a0Let\u2019s just pray that in whatever direction the Church goes in and how the liturgy is celebrated, that everything moves toward God and toward everything that God loves.\u00a0 Christ will certainly continue to come upon our altars and into our hearts.\u00a0 Faith and love will always bring Him to us.\u00a0 Much of everything else is just decoration.<\/p>\n<p>Till the next time.\u00a0 Let us pray for our cardinals as they enter the conclave to elect our new Pope.\u00a0 Once those doors to the conclave are closed, may the Holy Spirit be the only one let in.\u00a0 Amen.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">You are in my prayers and in my heart.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gracias a Dios<\/strong> que en Santa Julia no tenemos una discusi\u00f3n importante sobre este asunto. Nuestra unidad y paz son respetadas.<\/p>\n<p>En ocasiones me han preguntado qu\u00e9 opino de la Misa en lat\u00edn o si estar\u00eda dispuesto a celebrar la antigua Misa en lat\u00edn. Me parece muy interesante que incluso algunos j\u00f3venes hoy en d\u00eda se sientan atra\u00eddos por la Misa en lat\u00edn. No lo entiendo del todo, pero no tengo m\u00e1s remedio que aceptar lo que est\u00e1 sucediendo y hacer todo lo posible por discernir la voluntad de Dios.<\/p>\n<p>Puede que sea un poco diferente en todo esto, porque realmente no tengo nada en contra de la misa en lat\u00edn. La realidad es que en la Iglesia Cat\u00f3lica la Eucarist\u00eda se celebra de muchas maneras diferentes. Pero \u00bfcelebrar\u00eda yo una misa en lat\u00edn? La pregunta me pone los pelos de punta, porque tengo un conocimiento muy limitado del lat\u00edn, y pedirme que celebre la misa en lat\u00edn con los antiguos rituales es como pedirme que la celebre en un paisaje marciano. Fue la misa que serv\u00ed de peque\u00f1o monaguillo, y solo dur\u00f3 un a\u00f1o aproximadamente. Soy hijo del Concilio Vaticano II.<\/p>\n<p>Soy una de esas criaturas \u00fanicas que ve belleza y reverencia en todas partes. No me importa mucho hacia d\u00f3nde mire el altar ni la mirada del sacerdote. No importa en qu\u00e9 idioma se celebre la misa ni qu\u00e9 rituales se realicen. No importa c\u00f3mo se vista el sacerdote (aunque ponerse un alba de encaje y una de esas casullas de espalda de viol\u00edn no es algo con lo que yo sue\u00f1e \ud83d\ude0a) ni a cu\u00e1ntos cent\u00edmetros de su pecho abra los brazos durante la celebraci\u00f3n. No importa si te gusta la misa en lat\u00edn o no. Es tu decisi\u00f3n, y si te acerca a Dios, pues bien. Lo que me importa es lo que te acerca a Dios y a la humanidad. Lo que me importa es la diferencia positiva que las celebraciones y los rituales te ayudan a convertirte en un ser humano m\u00e1s devoto y compasivo, y te llevan a la uni\u00f3n con Dios y con los dem\u00e1s, especialmente con los pobres, los marginados y los desafortunados. Lo que me importa es que tus decisiones no te generen arrogancia espiritual ni te haga pensar que lo que te gusta es lo mejor y lo \u00fanico. Cuando la arrogancia se instala, todo lo bueno se va por la ventana.<\/p>\n<p>Ahora bien, no me malinterpreten, por favor. Por si no lo sab\u00edan, me encanta la tradici\u00f3n y el ritual. Hay mucha belleza y significado en la tradici\u00f3n y el ritual. Creo que la tradici\u00f3n nos ayuda a mantenernos arraigados y a conservar nuestra identidad. El ritual nos ayuda a elevar todos nuestros sentidos al acto de adoraci\u00f3n y a la conciencia de lo sagrado. Sin duda, ambos tienen su lugar en la vida de la Iglesia, y la Iglesia siempre ha tenido un profundo respeto por la tradici\u00f3n y el ritual. A decir verdad, los rituales que me atraen son aquellos que conectan mi conciencia con lo sagrado, que muestran reverencia y me arraigan en un espacio sagrado durante la oraci\u00f3n y el culto. Soy totalmente contemplativo en este aspecto.<\/p>\n<p>Bueno, esto es lo que pienso sobre la tradici\u00f3n, el ritual y un nuevo papa (\u00a1Redoble de tambores, por favor!): Despu\u00e9s de intentar interpretar los signos de los tiempos, creo que quienes gobiernan discernir\u00e1n mejor para ver si hemos tirado al beb\u00e9 junto con el agua de la ba\u00f1era. La generaci\u00f3n m\u00e1s joven busca una experiencia de Dios y hay un cambio en la b\u00fasqueda humana de Dios y de la espiritualidad. Aunque sigo analizando todo esto con gran inter\u00e9s, realmente no s\u00e9 qu\u00e9 resultar\u00e1 de ello. Creo que estamos en un umbral y Dios nos guiar\u00e1 a trav\u00e9s de \u00e9l. Pienso que los cardenales podr\u00edan elegir a un hombre que no sea r\u00edgido ni demasiado laxo con la tradici\u00f3n y el ritual, sino que intente crear un equilibrio entre los efectos de Benedicto XVI y Francisco. Sus m\u00e9todos afectar\u00e1n a la Iglesia. \u00a1As\u00ed que, aguarden, gente! Este deber\u00eda ser un viaje interesante. Me encantan las aventuras que Dios nos env\u00eda y las sorpresas que nos reserva cuando nos sentimos demasiado seguros de nosotros mismos.<\/p>\n<p>Ciertamente, durante el pontificado del Papa Francisco, la cuesti\u00f3n de la Misa en lat\u00edn se convirti\u00f3 en un tema de discordia. No creo que el problema fuera la Misa en lat\u00edn en s\u00ed, sino algo m\u00e1s grave: cuando el deseo por la Misa en lat\u00edn fue usurpado por un movimiento tradicionalista extremo dentro de la Iglesia que se volvi\u00f3 espiritualmente arrogante, divisivo, desobediente y una clara amenaza para nuestra unidad cat\u00f3lica. Creo que se dispararon en el pie. Esa es mi opini\u00f3n, al menos, y mi opini\u00f3n no es dogma cat\u00f3lico, \u00a1gracias a Dios!<\/p>\n<p>Espero que todo el asunto de la Misa en lat\u00edn tenga un final feliz, si es que no lo ha tenido ya. Desde luego, no voy a perder el sue\u00f1o por ello. Hay otros asuntos importantes que atender y a los que dedicarnos: ser m\u00e1s compasivos, cuidar nuestro planeta y nuestras vidas, atender a los pobres y olvidados, convertirnos en una iglesia m\u00e1s transparente e inclusiva, ser m\u00e1s conscientes y educados sobre el mensaje de Jesucristo, poner nuestra fe en acci\u00f3n, ser m\u00e1s humildes y abiertos al Esp\u00edritu, defender la justicia, ser conscientes de las necesidades de los dem\u00e1s, ser m\u00e1s comprensivos y perdonadores, decir la verdad a los poderosos, proteger a los inmigrantes, buscar los deseos y la voluntad de Dios, crear un mundo m\u00e1s pac\u00edfico, y la lista sigue y sigue y sigue\u2026<\/p>\n<p>El consuelo y la consternaci\u00f3n de todo esto de la iglesia es que el planeta seguir\u00e1 girando sobre su eje, el sol saldr\u00e1 ma\u00f1ana y todav\u00eda hay suficiente ox\u00edgeno en la atm\u00f3sfera para un poco m\u00e1s. No hay que alarmarse. Oremos para que, sea cual sea la direcci\u00f3n que tome la Iglesia y c\u00f3mo se celebre la liturgia, todo se dirija hacia Dios y hacia todo lo que Dios ama. Cristo ciertamente seguir\u00e1 viniendo a nuestros altares y a nuestros corazones. La fe y el amor siempre lo traer\u00e1n a nosotros. Todo lo otro es solo decoraci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Hasta la pr\u00f3xima. Oremos por nuestros cardenales al entrar al c\u00f3nclave para elegir a nuestro nuevo Papa. Una vez cerradas las puertas del c\u00f3nclave, que solo el Esp\u00edritu Santo pueda entrar. Am\u00e9n.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Est\u00e1n en mis oraciones y en mi coraz\u00f3n.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thank you, Pope Francis Gracias, Papa Francisco. 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